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There’s been basically no discussion of any of the AI features of the platform so far in this thread though?
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Is the ai tag required if the tool is built with ai, or just if it has ai features?
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I’m not sure that much is gained by insisting that all threads mentioning, e.g. ZILF or fweep have the ai tag just because some of their code was written with AI assistance. But it would be nice if we could encourage developers announcing a substantial new platform to disclose the extent to which AI was used in the development, since that might inform how one evaluates it. Many of @ivan’s observations, for example, seem suggestive of a tool written by an AI agent with limited human oversight …
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I asked AI how it might deal with the nuance of AI usage. Here’s what it had to say:
Something to maybe consider at least.
The downfall of AI, just might be AI. 
Edit: I’m not saying this is a perfect solution (it was quoted verbatim), just a domain of thought about how to deal with the AI issue. Context of AI usage matters to me.
I appreciate use of the AI tag to indicate when an LLM has been used in any part of a project. I am flatly not going to waste my time on anything of the sort, and as I have the AI tag muted, it means I don’t even have to bother with reading about it. It’s lovely.
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No tag is officially required, but anyone who’s a forum regular can add them.
The best uses for tags are for meta-organization and filtering. I added the split-on-request tag to this topic to notate it originally started as messages in a different topic. You can click a tag to see all topics that have that tag.
Conversely, if you have a specific type of topic you want to track or not track, this can be set in your profile. In the sidebar under “Your Preferences” choose “Topic Notifications”
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The ai tag is not a punishment or a scarlet letter of any type. We have members who aren’t interested in AI, and that’s why the tag is useful for people who mute it. If you use sugarcube but not harlowe you can adjust your visibility to posts with those tags.
The power of them comes when multiple messages use the same tag to categorize them. Ideally it’s best to choose an existing tag instead of creating a new one - nearly identical tags like inform-7 vs inform7 make it more difficult to filter and search for them if they are functionally the same.
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This response doesn’t actually make any sense for most posts on this forum, though. Which is what you would expect from an LLM that lacks any knowledge of the specific context.
I thought we had a general rule against posts that just say “I asked an LLM about the content of this thread and here’s what it said.” If I wanted to know that (which I generally don’t), I could just ask it myself.
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@HanonO So I added the ai tag to the topic this discussion was split from. I had no idea I could do that. I feel, I feel like…
I’d love for people to disclose the context of their AI usage, but I realize that’s an impossible ask. You’ve convinced me that the generic ai tag is sufficient and if I’m actually curious about the level of usage, I can always ask the author directly.
@jwalrus I understand and agree. I just thought it was funny to ask AI about how we could flag it’s own usage while also contributing an idea that I thought had merit. Maybe the joke was lost and the idea was not well thought out. However, I think I’ll adopt it for when I share my first project here. I used AI to help with some of my conditional logic and compressing SVG path data. Anyway, I get where you’re coming from and I’ll exercise a bit more restraint in the future. We all need a gentle nudge in the right direction now and then. It’s all good. 
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So the rule is based on Code of Conduct:
[!quote] Post Only Your Own Stuff
You may not post anything digital that belongs to someone else without permission. You may not post descriptions of, links to, or methods for stealing someone’s intellectual property (software, video, audio, images), or for breaking any other law.
AI or LLM generated content is not considered “Your Own Stuff” and we recommend you cite the source and clearly demarcate generated prose when discussing it. It’s okay to use AI to assist your writing, but please don’t use an AI to generate your entire message.
Accounts that use AI to deceptively post as a real person in an attempt to fool people or pass the Turing Test will be banned. An AI cannot agree to the Code of Conduct and cannot be moderated, so they are not eligible to inhabit an account.
Since AI/LLM overlaps in a big way with random/procedural text-generation strategies that have always been a part of Interactive Fiction, it can be a legitimate discussion topic under certain circumstances, but we request that people don’t use AI to “participate” in forum discussion. If you copy/paste text from Chat-GPT we request you cite it the same way as if you quoted a website or blog that someone else wrote. In short, don’t use generated text deceptively or in service of plagiarism.
We want to have discussions with you, not a machine by-proxy.
So posting “I fed an LLM this discussion topic and here’s what it said: […]” minus any additional human commentary straddles the line of following and breaking the rules - the source was cited, but essentially is inviting a machine to participate in forum discussion.
The usual impulse upon seeing that is Moderator eyebrow-raise 
where we make a mental note about who’s doing that versus what we know about them, and a possibly a virtual TODO to gently remind a user about it privately if the behavior is repeated.
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Many thanks, I did not know this was possible!
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Hello all, I am brand new to the IF forum and apologize for missing the requirement to tag my post as described. It sounds like that has been done for me at this point, thanks for doing that. Please let me know if there are further actions required on my end! In no way was my intent to spam or slip something under the moderator radar, I’ve simply been looking for places to share my project with people who would appreciate and have fun with it.
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Welcome! 
There are no requirements for using tags, but it’s always helpful. You didn’t do anything wrong at all. That’s why experienced forum members have the ability to assist with it - it’s common for new members to not understand which category their post should go in, or how to name a topic descriptively, or what tags are appropriate.
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Quoting from my edited post for visibility since I added it later:
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You say that with comedically unfortunate timing, immediately following a poster rather proudly proclaiming that they will never interact with anything to do with so-tagged games or platforms ever (and I get the impression that that’s probably the silent majority opinion on here by now). So I can’t quite agree with your claim that it is an entirely inconsequential disclosure, …
… and agree with this.
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We can’t control other people’s opinions, but as far as this Forum is concerned, it’s not a punishment or a red flag.
We hope people can view the forum in the manner they best enjoy. If that involves muting topics and people they don’t want to hear from, that’s perfectly legitimate.
If Individual A feels that Individual B personally muting their topic to avoid engaging with it is an affront, that’s an Individual A-problem. You can only directly affect your own behavior and opinions, not someone else’s. Once people figure that out life is so much easier.
[!question]- This may be because
I’ve written erotica for years and am completely comfortable with stating up front “hey, this may not be your thing, I’d prefer you don’t engage with this at all if you’re uncomfortable rather than being uninformed and subsequently surprised and angry with me about it…”
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Also, to make it explicit—we, as the forum staff, try not to be prescriptive about tag use. I don’t personally see the point in having a dialog tag when we already have a Authoring > Dialog category, for example, so I don’t tend to use it for posts in that category. Other people clearly do find it useful, because they apply it to some of my threads, even when they’re already in that category. Both of those things are fine.
Personally, I put the ai tag on threads about using AI when writing/coding. If someone is advertising a new platform that has LLM integrations to help you write, that gets the tag. If they’re advertising a new platform that just had LLMs used when coding it, that doesn’t…unless they’re posting dev diaries about how they used Claude to build the platform, then it does.
That’s my personal rubric, but other people might have their own views, and that’s all right too. If it becomes a problem in a particular case (like if an edit war springs up adding and removing the tag), then we (the community) should talk about it in Site Feedback and get a consensus that the moderators can enforce. Until that happens, though, we (the moderators) prefer to stay fairly hands-off.
(And remember, anyone can create a tag at any time. If you want to make a #coded-with-ai tag and apply it to a bunch of threads, we won’t stop you! Just don’t use this for harassment or vandalism; if you make a #this-reviewer-f’ing-sucks tag to put on review threads you don’t like, we’ll be having words.)
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@Draconis Okay. I won’t go around putting #slop on everything I hate now. 
@ArdiMaster I get where you’re coming from and agree that tagging a topic with ai brings a stigma to it. I have blocked ai tagged posts for a while just because I hate being tricked into looking at IF game engines (which I love checking out more than playing IF sometimes, it seems) and being a guinea pig for an “experimental” project that doesn’t even pass the sniff test for sensibility and consideration for people. (“Tell us how you really feel.” I hear you say. ) But I would not like to miss out on projects that use AI that aligns with what I consider “ethical” use.
I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place, it seems.
Then again, I just have to ask myself, “What would my father say?” He’d say something like… “What we don’t know, won’t hurt us.” So, I guess if you used AI with care (as a tool, and not a solution) then just keep your friggin’ trap shut and move on.
Thanks, Dad! You always know what to say.
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Thankfully it’s never something we’ve actually had a problem with; I’ve just been moderating forums long enough to add caveats whenever I tell users to go wild with things! 
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I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but if there’s a topic you don’t want to follow because it contains content you don’t like, but you don’t have the permissions to add a tag, you can always mute the topic itself. By default, it’s the bell icon on the right sidebar and at the bottom of the page.
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