ParserComp 2025 - Final Results

Dear Friends,

We’re pleased to announce the final results of ParserComp 2025.

Firstly, some disclosure: the initial results published in this thread were not quite right. The original ranking was derived from a simple sum of all scores given to each game, whereas the intention was to rank by an average of the sum of all scores given to each game divided by number of votes. We’re apologise for this oversight which was due to a bit of a rush to get the results out and a lack of double-checking on our part. If this had been left to Sandra on the front desk then it would never have happened but, sadly, she is out of action with a slipped Microdrive, and so we had to work it out for ourselves; matters were made worse by the fact that, although you’d never believe it, ParserComp HQ is so vast that fos1’s and Christopher’s separate suites are in different time zones with a gap of around 7 hours between them! This means that we are only able to interact briefly over breakfast/supper, and for the rest of the time, fos1 feeds lithium to the supercomputer while Christopher sleeps, and Christopher polishes the silverware while fos1 dozes, the two doomed never to meet (it’s rather like being in a less-exciting version of Ladyhawke, except set in a secret bunker, beneath a mountain, in [state redacted]). The corrected ranking produces a different result when the games are considered together in the same category, which you can see in the spreadsheet linked further below.

Secondly: we noted the concerns around the primary use of AI in two of the games submitted, Mystery Academy and Last Audit of the Damned, both by thoughtauction, alongside the heavy promotion of the games on reddit. On the first point, as we said in the other thread, the decision to allow the games into the competition was the organisers’ and we take responsibility for that. On the second point, we have looked at the timestamped data in the voting form and don’t see any very strong evidence of chicanery there, so, while not wishing in any way to delegitimise peoples’ strong opinions on this, which we’ve heard in the other thread and don’t feel we need to rerun here, we’d like to extend benefit of the doubt to the authors of those games and draw a line under that speculation. The games will not be disqualified from the competition.

However, we have decided to retrospectively reinstate the ‘other’ category (most recently know as ‘Freestyle’) that was originally omitted from this year’s competition, and place these two somewhat contentious games in there. They are therefore still winners in their category, but are not in direct competition with the rest of the games (which remain in the extant ‘Classic’ category).

We hope all is now settled, and clear. Congratulations to all the winners and a huge thank you to everyone who voted, particularly those who provided all the very valuable and constructive feedback in response to the questions in the form. For many authors, the written feedback is far more valuable than any numeric score, so we’re sure it will be very much appreciated. We will find a way of getting it directly to the authors, along with the certificates and recklessly promised fabulous prizes, in due course.

(Phew! Now that’s all said and done, I think we must have a little lie down with a damp cloth across our brows and a decanter of sweet sherry to hand. We’ll see you all next year.)

Best wishes,

fos1 & Christopher

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Complete results can be viewed in this spreadsheet, and are summarised below:

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Classic Category

The overall winners are:

1st place: EYE, by Arthur DiBianca

2nd place: Swap Wand User, by Passerine

3rd place: Witchever, by improvmonster

OVERALL SCORE B C D
OVERALL SCORE
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final overall score
FIRST PLACE: EYE - Arthur DiBianca 64 14 4.571428571
SECOND PLACE: Swap Wand User - Passerine 60 15 4
THIRD PLACE: Witchever - improvmonster 29 8 3.625
A Taste of Terror - Garry Francis 47 13 3.615384615
The 13th Quest - Older Timer 10 3 3.333333333
Lockout - xkqr 24 8 3
Desperados - The BDB Project 14 5 2.8
Tin Star - The BDB Project 19 7 2.714285714
The journey - paravaariar 40 15 2.666666667
Wild West - The BDB Project 26 10 2.6
WRITING
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final writing score
EYE - Arthur DiBianca 52 14 3.714285714
Swap Wand User - Passerine 55 15 3.666666667
Witchever - improvmonster 29 8 3.625
A Taste of Terror - Garry Francis 43 13 3.307692308
Lockout - xkqr 26 8 3.25
Desperados - The BDB Project 16 5 3.2
The 13th Quest - Older Timer 9 3 3
The journey - paravaariar 44 15 2.933333333
Wild West - The BDB Project 29 10 2.9
Tin Star - The BDB Project 20 7 2.857142857
STORY
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final story score
Swap Wand User - Passerine 54 15 3.6
Witchever - improvmonster 27 8 3.375
EYE - Arthur DiBianca 47 14 3.357142857
A Taste of Terror - Garry Francis 43 13 3.307692308
Lockout - xkqr 25 8 3.125
Desperados - The BDB Project 15 5 3
The 13th Quest - Older Timer 9 3 3
The journey - paravaariar 41 15 2.733333333
Wild West - The BDB Project 26 10 2.6
Tin Star - The BDB Project 18 7 2.571428571
IMPLEMENTATION
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final implementation score
EYE - Arthur DiBianca 64 14 4.571428571
Swap Wand User - Passerine 59 15 3.933333333
A Taste of Terror - Garry Francis 50 13 3.846153846
Desperados - The BDB Project 19 5 3.8
Lockout - xkqr 30 8 3.75
Tin Star - The BDB Project 24 7 3.428571429
The 13th Quest - Older Timer 10 3 3.333333333
Wild West - The BDB Project 33 10 3.3
Witchever - improvmonster 26 8 3.25
The journey - paravaariar 45 15 3
PUZZLES
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final puzzles score
EYE - Arthur DiBianca 61 14 4.357142857
Swap Wand User - Passerine 59 15 3.933333333
Witchever - improvmonster 29 8 3.625
A Taste of Terror - Garry Francis 46 13 3.538461538
The 13th Quest - Older Timer 10 3 3.333333333
Lockout - xkqr 26 8 3.25
Desperados - The BDB Project 16 5 3.2
Tin Star - The BDB Project 19 7 2.714285714
Wild West - The BDB Project 23 10 2.3
The journey - paravaariar 33 15 2.2
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Freestyle Category

The overall winners are:

1st place: Mystery Academy, by thoughtauction

2nd place: Last Audit of the Damned, by thoughtauction

OVERALL SCORE B C D
OVERALL SCORE
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final overall score
FIRST PLACE: Mystery Academy - thoughtauction 94 23 4.086956522
SECOND PLACE: Last Audit of the Damned - thoughtauction 83 22 3.772727273
WRITING
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final writing score
Mystery Academy - thoughtauction 94 23 4.086956522
Last Audit of the Damned - thoughtauction 85 22 3.863636364
STORY
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final story score
Mystery Academy - thoughtauction 95 23 4.130434783
Last Audit of the Damned - thoughtauction 85 22 3.863636364
IMPLEMENTATION
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final implementation score
Mystery Academy - thoughtauction 94 23 4.086956522
Last Audit of the Damned - thoughtauction 84 22 3.818181818
PUZZLES
Game Numeric total Number of votes Final puzzles score
Mystery Academy - thoughtauction 92 23 4
Last Audit of the Damned - thoughtauction 82 22 3.727272727
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(Attentive viewers may have been amused at my faltering attempts to paste the relevant tables into this thread - I’m sure it didn’t used to be this difficult! Perhaps this was the final test; I got there in the end)

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Hello fos1 and Christopher,

I hope the sweet sherry goes down smoothly, and I don’t begrudge you in the least a needed break. That said, will we be waiting until next year to learn what the Parsercomp’s organizers’ intentions are for future iterations?

Several questions remain, from, one, whether AI entries will be welcome to compete in the future, and in what fashion, to, two, addressing various suggestions for voting reform similar to IFComp requirements (minimum 5 game vote requirements, *or whichever specifics*, etc) brought up by numerous community members, to, three, what exactly does ParserComp rule 8, ostensibly addressing excessive self-promotion, soliciting of votes and fair play considerations, cover (or not cover)??? That’s just off the top of my head; I’m sure there’s more.

So, please, sincerely, take a breather, take a long one even, but leaving all those questions to stew until next April might not be ideal.

Thank you for putting in all the unseen hard work making this a reality every year.

Sincerely,

Pinkunz

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Would simply like to add that 5 may not be the ideal number (was just an example) and that games with less ratings than the “ideal number” should not be unranked, just accounted for in someway in my opinion. I am glad they didn’t just move “The 13th Quest” straight to the bottom as those who played it apparently enjoyed it. Of course, its score is statistically less certain but we can never be certain anyway. Perhaps only enforce penalties for few ratings when the impact is significant, such as being in top 3 or something(?).. IFComp also seem to be forgiving in this respect sometimes :slight_smile:

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I believe IFComp specifically doesn’t weight scores by number of votes, because even unpopular games get enough votes to be statistically significant.

But that’s not necessarily a feasible solution for smaller comps where you can’t trust that the least playable game gets ten or more votes.

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I don’t think this is “don’t rank games which get less than 5 votes”, but “don’t count rankings from voters who play less than 5 games”. That’s the analogous rule in IFcomp, at least.

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Aside that I haven’t voted in the parsercomp, I strive to judge every game I can play (= at least running under WINE), even the IFComp ones (tbh, I’m not sure if I manage to find the time to review all…) and I’m now officially worried about the serenity of the judging period.

Perplexed regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

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Sorry, can you explain this a bit. Looking at EYE, the sum of all scores is 224. So then what is averaged. thanks.

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For example, in the overall score category, Lockout has a numeric total of 24 from 8 votes, so has an average of 3. The journey has a numeric total of 40 from 15 votes, so has an average of 2.666. The original results incorrectly ranked The journey above Lockout because the total is higher (40 vs 24) even though the average is lower (2.666 vs 3).

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Thanks for your explaination, but where does the “overall score” come from?

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“Overall Score” was one of the numeric scores that each voter was asked to provide.

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Oh Wow, thank you. The other scores are just for each category and do not affect the final result. thanks.

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Sorry if that wasn’t quite clear!

“ParserComp - delivering consternation and confusion since 2021…”

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