Looking Ahead to a 2026 Play Event [decided: Great Play Marathon]

As we approach the end of the year, I’ve started thinking about what kind of play event might be fun in 2026. Last year, the winning idea was the People’s Champion Tournament, but there were two other ideas under consideration.

I’m trotting those ideas out again, plus adding another one that occurred to me recently:

  • The IF Olympics – The idea here would be that players would form teams based on imaginary geography that draws on fictional polities found in IF. (The members of a country would be heavily encouraged to come up with a flag.) Following a “draft” of games to the various countries, the selected games would then compete in events based on the various sub-elements of a work, e.g. most evocative prose, best supporting mechanic, most surprising plot twist, etc. Members of a country would be expected to post examples from their competing “athletes” to demonstrate each game’s strength in the aspect focused on by a particular event. At the end, both countries and games would be ranked based on medals accumulated. To keep things fresh, games that were contestants in the Free IF Playoffs or the People’s Champion Tournament WOULD NOT be eligible.

  • The Great Play Marathon – This would be a “competition” between players instead of games. There would be a selection of perhaps 20 or 30 games (called the “field”) from which each player would play a “course” of 6 to 12 that they choose. This would be a longer event (lasting several months), with people posting their thoughts/impressions/reviews as they go, and various awards for players would be issued at the end, such as fastest course completed, toughest course completed, most useful reviews, etc. Games on the “field” would be selected randomly from among the top 3% rated games on IFDB, which should offer plenty of options for new choices to any one player (mathbrush excepted). Games that were contestants in the Free IF Playoffs or the People’s Champion Tournament would be allowed if they came up during random selection, since part of the reason for these events is to get people to play games that are on their “someday” list.

  • Demolition Derby – This would be somewhat similar to previous tournaments, in that it would be a single-elimination tournament with only one winner. Every participating player would submit one or more choices, and from these would be chosen a field of 16 “cars” to be entered. At the start of each week, a subset of cars (initially four pairs at a time) would be pitted against each other in one-on-one matchups assigned at random. Players would play the currently-contending games throughout the week, and post portions of game transcripts to discuss. Voting would be held over the weekend at the end of each week; the winner of each vote would remain in the derby and its opponent would be removed. The last “car” standing is the winner. For this event, games that were contestants in the Free IF Playoffs or the People’s Champion Tournament WOULD NOT be eligible.

Do any of these sound like fun to you?

Yes! I would be interested in participating as a player in…
  • The IF Olympics
  • The Great Play Marathon
  • Demolition Derby
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I’m just gauging interest at this point, and timing has not been decided. Any and all thoughts about the various ideas are welcome; last year several suggestions proposed in the discussion were adopted.

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I’m a little surprised to see The Great Play Marathon in the lead, but I’m game!

I haven’t done a lot of thinking about this one yet. It would be a relatively low-intensity event, with some of the action taking place on IFDB. I would probably be updating a map showing everyone’s positions on the field, and there would be a thread where each player could post (and keep updating) a record of the course taken so far.

A quick check of the top 3% of games (per the IFDB Top 100 ranking algorithm) shows that the list includes some games with as few as 3 actual ratings. An example random pick of 30 from the qualifying list would be:

IFDB ID				 TITLE
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dkx1r6fivxc1j3u7 	 Ekphrasis                                                                      
f810fngvnv1zbxqg 	 Der Angstbaum                                                                  
7t6bcdrkbrs9r1de 	 Faute De Servo                                                                 
es0sfij74uu4barv 	 ♥Magical Makeover♥                                                             
ewqmndkzozvwfi7u 	 New Year's Eve, 2019                                                           
zqokrx6glbvfw1d  	 Draculaland                                                                    
pwyjp54iubdq70p0 	 Sunset Over Savannah                                                           
3wdf1dn5z6vcuyki 	 In the Pale Moonlight                                                          
kj2v3ajmxz136o9f 	 Kelly Unicornstrider and Friends (1982-1985)                                   
xf82b1nwypjiobko 	 Of Their Shadows Deep                                                          
ajf5z3ue5mtj948l 	 Known Unknowns                                                                 
m85rnpq6x77jyzc3 	 Delusions                                                                      
w5s3sv43s3p98v45 	 The Gostak                                                                     
61dstzf063sjkw93 	 The Book of Living Magic                                                       
urxrv27t7qtu52lb 	 Galatea                                                                        
01efmfsk4r79mtks 	 Floatpoint                                                                     
9bgglbug7g1fxlxe 	 CosmoServe: an Adventure Game for the BBS-Enslaved                             
10387w68qlwehbyq 	 The Moonlit Tower                                                              
u4u57v2ggfcqvll7 	 The Only Possible Prom Dress                                                   
l7jp0brwz4s1jdr  	 Castle, Forest, Island, Sea                                                    
6qp3g7te26h3rb5u 	 According to Cain                                                              
s9nuslkgsb436b1q 	 Secret Agent Cinder                                                            
itbz82mwebzqjfvm 	 El Archipiélago                                                                
c9ll6cr8zr1txtfe 	 A Bear's Night Out                                                             
jawdo36ohg0br4mx 	 Estado Profundo                                                                
1iqmpkn009h9gbug 	 Raising the Flag on Mount Yo Momma                                             
pw1rbjt1t4n4n87s 	 Junior Arithmancer                                                             
4bddum51nb6c568t 	 Tavern Crawler                                                                 
yghs5x72086bkewt 	 Ofrenda a la Pincoya                                                           
6gspor90p8s1s1b  	 The Eleusinian Miseries                                                        

Note that this is NOT the field that would be used, just a sample of the kind of field that might result from random picks among the top 3%.

In some sample sets I generated, some of the entries had no links to playable games and/or used dubious non-standard formats (such as Flash or custom websites), so I’d look for a way to screen those. Some are in languages other than English, but I’d be inclined to leave those in.

In this sample set, I’ve played about 1/3 of the entries, and 8 of them (27%) appeared in previous play events. It might be desirable to have a larger field (e.g. 48 or 54 entries).

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Here’s a sample of what a larger field (54 entries) might look like (again, this would NOT be the actual field used – it’s just an example):

GAME LIST (9x6 sample, top 3% of games)
  • A1 - Crown of Exile
  • A2 - Dragon Fate
  • A3 - His Majesty’s Royal Space Navy Handbook
  • A4 - Three More Visitors
  • A5 - Advent Door
  • A6 - The Impossible Stairs
  • B1 - 4x4 Archipelago
  • B2 - Adventurer’s Consumer Guide
  • B3 - Arakhan’s Vengeance
  • B4 - Oppositely Opal
  • B5 - Skulljhabit
  • B6 - The Little Match Girl against the Universal Sisterhood of Naughty Little Girls
  • C1 - Star Court
  • C2 - Damnatio Memoriae
  • C3 - Recursion
  • C4 - Fragile Shells
  • C5 - Horse Master
  • C6 - Ad Verbum
  • D1 - 18 Rooms to Home
  • D2 - Glowgrass
  • D3 - The Journey of the King
  • D4 - Risorgimento Represso
  • D5 - Last-Minute Magic
  • D6 - Lysidice and the Minotaur
  • E1 - Several Other Tales from Castle Balderstone
  • E2 - Warp
  • E3 - Grimnoir
  • E4 - I.A.G. Alpha
  • E5 - En Garde
  • E6 - The Owl Consults
  • F1 - Estado Profundo
  • F2 - So Far
  • F3 - Biscuits and Ghosts
  • F4 - Trigaea
  • F5 - Christminster
  • F6 - ULTRA BUSINESS TYCOON III
  • G1 - De Baron
  • G2 - Losing Your Grip
  • G3 - Stay?
  • G4 - Blood and Sunlight
  • G5 - *The Meteor, the Stone and a Long Glass of Sherbet
  • G6 - Chlorophyll
  • H1 - Violet
  • H2 - Boat Prom
  • H3 - Grooverland
  • H4 - Delightful Wallpaper
  • H5 - Zozzled
  • H6 - Cannery Vale
  • I1 - Beyond
  • I2 - Visit Skuga Lake - Masterpiece Edition
  • I3 - Animalia
  • I4 - Aotearoa
  • I5 - Fabricationist DeWit Remakes the World
  • I6 - Floatpoint

In this particular sample, there are 9 games (17%) which have previously appeared in play events, and I’ve played about a quarter of the field.

The basic idea is that marathoners would pick an edge to start depending on the desired course length. A short course (6 games) would start at the top or bottom row. A longer course (9 games) would start at the rightmost or leftmost column.

As an example, a runner (say #23) who wanted to do a longer course or 9 games might start at A3 (His Majesty’s Royal Space Navy Service Handbook) and then proceed “eastward” across the map, choosing an adjacent square (with diagonals allowed) each move. Runner #23 might elect a course of A3 → B4 (Oppositely Opal) → C4 (Fragile Shells) → D5 (Last-Minute Magic) → E6 (The Owl Consults) → F6 (ULTRA BUSINESS TYCOON III) → G5 (The Meteor, the Stone and a Long Glass of Sherbet) → H6 (Cannery Vale) → I5 (Fabricationist DeWit Remakes the World). (NOTE: This particular course was chosen at random. Runner #23 could start on a different square in column A and choose any other path across the map.)

As another example, a runner (say #37) who chose a shorter course of 6 games might start at C1 (Star Court) and then proceed “southward” across the map. Runner #37’s chosen course might be C1 → D2 (Glowgrass) → E3 (Grimnoir) → E4 (I.A.G. Alpha) → F5 (Christminster) → G6 (Chlorophyll). (Again, starting square and course were chosen randomly.)

Someone who wanted to do a very long course of 12 games would start on a top or bottom row, cross to the other side, move one square left or right, then cross back to the starting row. That person would never revisit a previously-crossed square.

In the example shown below, the runner (#19) starts at A1 (Crown of Exile), then proceeds along the path A1 → A2 (Dragon Fate) → A3 (His Majesty’s Royal Space Navy Service Handbook) → A4 (Three More Visitors) → B5 (Skulljhabit) → C6 (Ad Verbum). Having reached the far side, the runner chooses to move one square left to B6 (The Little Match Girl against the Universal Sisterhood of Naughty Little Girls). After that, #19 chooses a return path of B6 → C5 (Horse Master) → B4 (Oppositely Opal) → C3 (Recursion.) → C2 (Damnatio Memoriae) → D1 (18 Rooms to Home).

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I’ve been sketching out more details for The Great Play Marathon concept.

Up above, I mentioned that I’m using the “IFDB Top 100 algorithm,” but that’s not exactly correct. The Top 100 formula (i.e. padding with 14 “all average” ratings) is being used, but the IFDB Top 100 further imposes a minimum number of ratings in order to qualify. In the samples above there is no minimum requirement, though to get a high enough weighted average to qualify the effective minimum seems to be three ratings (two 5-star plus one 4-star).

I said I’d look for ways to screen out games with a low number of ratings, but with further study I’m not sure that’s a good idea. A surprisingly large fraction of the games in IFDB have fewer than 5 ratings – 10,700 per the Dec 01 data. That’s 70% of all entries! If these are to be screened out, that leaves only 4,450 games in the pool, and the top 3% of those is a list just 134 games long. Picking 54 of those means including 40% of that pool on the field, and in a test sample a very large portion (maybe half) of those randomly selected had appeared in previous play events. That seems like too much.

I could change the cutoff to the top 10% (as opposed to 3%) of games with 5+ ratings. This gives a comparable pool of 445 games and helps to help open the field to more games that have not been in previous play events. Alternatively, I can just ignore the number of ratings and go with a pool like the one used for the sample field graphic above. This adds some “wildcard” games that have only a handful of high votes, which may or may not come from highly biased voters (i.e. the “friends and family” vote).

Since nobody will be required to play any particular game on the field, I’m inclined to allow the wildcards to stay in the pool. What’s your preference?

To serve as a data point for comparison, here is a list of 30 games from the “only 5+ ratings allowed” version of the pool. (Again, these will NOT be the actual games used. It’s just a sample to compare to the other list of 30 above.)

5kmm4dxw6lvhat7i 	 Escape from Hell                             Nils Fagerburg                           	2022
032krqe6bjn5au78 	 Slouching Towards Bedlam                     Star C. Foster and Daniel Ravipinto      	2003
j1uj9pygpuw3v9pc 	 Heroes                                       Sean Barrett                             	2001
yozl86x1f1dauoi3 	 The Basilisk and the Banana                  Jasper & Darren                          	2024
cqwq699i9qiqdju  	 Party Foul                                   Brooks Reeves                            	2010
xfezh9wz188ihlel 	 Dual Transform                               Andrew Plotkin                           	2010
y19sm08i51b118bq 	 Portrait with Wolf                           Drew Cook                                	2025
77rsl9mezn5iogto 	 The Plant                                    Michael J. Roberts                       	1998
6d9dfn2akcrlq1bu 	 To Hell in a Hamper                          J. J. Guest                              	2003
1iqmpkn009h9gbug 	 Raising the Flag on Mount Yo Momma           Juhana Leinonen                          	2010
ljqfvoa6dshtk8xa 	 Yes, Another Game with a Dragon!             John Kean                                	2000
dk4hipbb9b3c7tli 	 Coming Out Simulator 2014                    Nicky Case                               	2014
dgwt1773us6c8eo1 	 The Prairie House                            Chris Hay (a.k.a. Eldritch Renaissance C 	2022
k6yq5koj2zjzstpt 	 The Mulldoon Legacy                          Jon Ingold                               	1999
eerznpfv6h1mp6px 	 Put Your Hand Inside The Puppet Head         The Hungry Reader                        	2023
1f4p0kxdwofvcp3i 	 Whitefield Academy of Witchcraft             Steph Cherrywell                         	2014
2yj5kbs7rxgjzn3l 	 Superstition S1                              13Leagues                                	2019
z553bqu0a3d86rku 	 Dr Horror's House of Terror                  Ade McT                                  	2021
d93xs619qx1au1ua 	 Moon-Shaped                                  Jason Ermer                              	2006
h8lrej4fid9cd3u3 	 Scents & Semiosis                            Sam Kabo Ashwell, Cat Manning, Caleb Wil 	2020
zpjzp8drlwozs0j0 	 The Chasing                                  Anssi Räisänen                           	2001
xwedbibfksczn7eq 	 Gun Mute                                     C.E.J. Pacian                            	2008
742srswkma72f7jf 	 Miss Gosling's Last Case                     Daniel M. Stelzer                        	2024
xi4s5ne9m6w821xd 	 Ad Verbum                                    Nick Montfort                            	2000
xkzeym50xgewwi4w 	 DEVOTIONALIA                                 G.C. "Grim" Baccaris (as G. Grimoire)    	2018
7btsk9iqqku2t8g9 	 En Garde                                     Jack Welch                               	2018
6dj2vguyiagrhvc2 	 Vespers                                      Jason Devlin                             	2005
dwgm9le9d8uh2ibq 	 the uncle who works for nintendo             michael lutz                             	2014
sy4loun7nue19spc 	 The Goldilocks Principle                     iris                                     	2025
h3p9ae9gw92w91x  	 JELLY                                        Tom Lento, Chandler Groover              	2020

In this case, there are only 5 (1/6) games that have previously appeared in play events.

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I’m going to throw something out there: why not exclude games that have more than a particular number of ratings (let’s say 8). A marathon with a list of games to play which have at maximum 8 ratings. Lots and lots of unknown gems to be unearthed! (And probably stinkers, but that’s okay too!)

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I think having a mix of familiar and unfamiliar games is likely to make it more compelling to participate. If I’m looking at making a selection of nine or twelve or whatever games from a list of totally unfamiliar names, it’s hard to know where to start. Having some well known games mixed in makes it possible to say “oh, I always meant to play that one, let’s plan a route that goes through that”.

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Yeah, I agree with Adam—part of the appeal of this for me is as motivation to play things I’ve been meaning to get around to, so an “obscure stuff only” version wouldn’t be as compelling.

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Would the games in the marathon be voted in by players beforehand like in previous rounds, or just randomly generated?

The games making up the field would be randomly selected from a pool of highly-rated games, where the meaning of “highly-rated” is up for debate.

With 16 total voters, The Great Play Marathon remains significantly in the lead at 62%.

I think it makes sense to keep well-known games on the field, though perhaps next year I’ll propose a “Jungle Trek” event that limits the field to games with few ratings. No player will be required to play any particular game on the field, since each runner determines a course independently.

It also occurred to me that there could be a “free running” option for players, in which the runner can start anywhere and choose to go in any direction instead of trying to cross the map. For example, a runner (say #11) might elect a short course of 6 games starting at H3 (Grooverland) and following the path H3 → I2 (Visit Skuga Lake - Masterpiece Edition) → H2 (Boat Prom) → G2 (Losing Your Grip) → H1 (Violet) → G1 (De Baron).

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It might be nice to have a bigger pool of games to choose from, especially if participants are not required to go from edge to edge. More than 54 games, I mean.

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Well, one thing I’d be hoping for would be that different runners’ paths would cross. This would encourage conversation around the games chosen by more than one runner.

There’s a limit to how big the field can get while still expecting paths to cross with any frequency. The current field size of 54 is already about twice as big as originally sketched out, but seems preferable because it translates easily to three standard course lengths (6 games, 9 games and 12 games) as shown above.

How big are you thinking?

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The Free IF Playoffs had 64 games, so maybe I was comparing it to that. I was just thinking with more games, there could be a higher chance that people will see games that appeal to them, and also games that they haven’t played already, and want to participate. But I can understand wanting to have overlapping paths.

The number of path crossings depends a lot on the fraction of runners who choose medium (9 game) courses, because these necessarily cross paths with those on short (6 game) or long (12 game) courses. I would imagine that most free runners would be trying to reach certain games instead of a purely random walk, so these are also likely to cross multiple standard course paths. The biggest driver of crossings is probably the number of runners.

The free running idea is mainly to accommodate people who are attracted to specific games and would be more likely to participate if they saw a course that hit several games on their to-play list but which didn’t involve games at the edges. (I don’t know how many people like that there are, but the basic philosophy of these play events is “the more the merrier.”)

The field (with its random arrangement of games upon it) is a completely arbitrary constraint, admittedly, but that’s what gives this idea a game-like character, and what separates it from something like mathbrush’s (very worthwhile, but qualitatively different) Accelerated IF Readers program.

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I also think paths crossing is a little less necessary here than it would be in the hypothetical “obscure games only” version, because if I decide I’m finally going to play something like Trigaea or The Impossible Stairs or Floatpoint and share my thoughts on it in the dedicated thread, odds are high that at least one other person following the thread has played it and can engage with what I have to say even if they didn’t play it for the event specifically.

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OK. For comparison’s sake, here is a field of 72 games (9x8), chosen from the “Top 10% of games with 5+ ratings” pool (once again, this is just a sample field, and not the one that would actually be used for the event):

GAME LIST (9x8 sample, top 10% of games with 5+ ratings)
  • A1 - Future Threads
  • A2 - Plasmorphosis
  • A3 - Several Other Tales from Castle Balderstone
  • A4 - Dual Transform
  • A5 - Lock & Key
  • A6 - Age of Fable
  • A7 - Portrait with Wolf
  • A8 - Blue Lacuna
  • B1 - Vain Empires
  • B2 - Brain Guzzlers from Beyond!
  • B3 - Dolores and the Cave
  • B4 - The Fairy Woods
  • B5 - Bad Machine
  • B6 - Arrival, or Attack of the B-Movie Clichés
  • B7 - Three-Card Trick
  • B8 - my father’s long, long legs
  • C1 - Limerick Heist
  • C2 - The Fire Tower
  • C3 - Klub Karisma
  • C4 - Beyond
  • C5 - For a Change
  • C6 - Cannery Vale
  • C7 - Ürs
  • C8 - the sea god
  • D1 - The Kuolema
  • D2 - Save the Date
  • D3 - Violet
  • D4 - Stone Harbor
  • D5 - Death by Powerpoint
  • D6 - You Will Select a Decision
  • D7 - The Anachronist
  • D8 - Dinner Bell
  • E1 - Midnight. Swordfight.
  • E2 - Beneath Floes
  • E3 - A Witch’s Word
  • E4 - First Things First
  • E5 - Metamorphoses
  • E6 - The Edifice
  • E7 - Grooverland
  • E8 - At King Arthur’s Christmas Feast
  • F1 - Signal Hill
  • F2 - The Absence of Miriam Lane
  • F3 - A Murder in Fairyland
  • F4 - Exhibition
  • F5 - Galatea
  • F6 - Glowgrass
  • F7 - Zeppelin Adventure
  • F8 - Fragile Shells
  • G1 - Princess of Vestria
  • G2 - Pytho’s Mask
  • G3 - Verses
  • G4 - Perdition’s Flames
  • G5 - The Storm (2019)
  • G6 - Advent Door
  • G7 - The Northnorth Passage
  • G8 - Harmonic Time-Bind Ritual Symphony
  • H1 - Castle, Forest, Island, Sea
  • H2 - Nightfall
  • H3 - The Trials and Tribulations of Edward Harcourt
  • H4 - hideous, fabulous
  • H5 - Endless, Nameless
  • H6 - Les espions ne meurent jamais
  • H7 - A Train to Piccadilly
  • H8 - Off-Season at the Dream Factory
  • I1 - A House of Endless Windows
  • I2 - THE DEVIL’S IMAGO
  • I3 - Spider and Web
  • I4 - Toby’s Nose
  • I5 - Tuuli
  • I6 - The Wand
  • I7 - Stuff of Legend
  • I8 - Floatpoint

There are some duplicates from the 9x6 sample, and it’s a weird coincidence that Floatpoint ended up in the bottom right square of both. I count 15 (21%) that have been in previous play events.

I think the idea of standard courses doesn’t really fit this field, but perhaps that’s not important.

The main questions are: Do you see more games that you would want to play on this field? Does it seem easier to choose a course that you would like?

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Could you maybe include text lists of the games? Some of the covers aren’t readable even at the bigger size and some don’t have text at all, and in those cases if I don’t know what something is, it’s very hard to look up.

Yes – added below the image, and also a list of games for the 9x6 sample used for the first layout.

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Thanks!

I’m actually finding it harder to chart a course I like on the 9x8, but I think that’s just luck of the draw in terms of both what games are included and where they’re placed. So I don’t think that’s really an argument against the 9x8 but I also am not strongly feeling like it’s better.

So far, every ‘field’ of games has been packed with great options. Each one has had a couple I haven’t played, but also has had a ton of very enjoyable games I’m familiar with. So I think your selections methods are good.

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