Inform7 no bug tracker?

[mtwomey]

It appears as though there might not be any current way to log (or check) issues with Inform. The bug tracker mentioned here appears to be down and and I can’t seem to find any link to the mentioned, upcoming Jira.

Anyone know if I’m missing the right place to do this?

[zarf (Andrew Plotkin)]

No. It’s down and there hasn’t been any news about a replacement.

[Zed (Zed Lopez)]

It’s a shame people keep getting tripped up by this. I just added a Bug Reports section to the Documentation and Resources thread initial post, for whatever good it may do.

[mtwomey]

Got it, thank you. Good thought to add it here. I think folks are getting tripped up just due to the outdated information on the Inform 7 site.

[FriendOfFred]

Is someone keeping a list of bugs to be entered into the system when there’s a way to do so? I seem to remember several being reported here on the forum recently. (Or, alternatively, should we simply accept that Inform 7 is abandonware?)

[Zed (Zed Lopez)]

@FriendOfFred

Is someone keeping a list of bugs to be entered into the system when there’s a way to do so? I seem to remember several being reported here on the forum recently.

I have, and I mean to document a list of them at some point. But it’s not likely to rise to the top of the project list very soon.

[Jonathan]

@FriendOfFred

alternatively, should we simply accept that Inform 7 is abandonware?

I don’t think that is an obvious alternative to someone keeping a list of bugs From what I’ve read, Graham Nelson is rewriting it in preparation for eventual open source release. Maybe the idea is that the bugs that’d get reported now likely wouldn’t be directly relevant to the current incarnation.

[Dannii]

Would it help to start an unofficial community bug tracker? We could start one on Github, like we did for the IFDB before it was officially adopted by the IFTF.

[Dannii]

i7/inform7-bugs

Here you go!

[Zed (Zed Lopez)]

[Updated: I’ll try to mark things below as checked when they’re entered.]

Thanks, @Dannii !

I know I’m not going to have time to do it justice any time soon, so I am going to dump my semi-coherent notes here in case anyone wants to use them as a basis to start entering things.

Intfiction threads about bugs and infelicities

get all from container doesn’t work correctly when container is carried

Strange behaviour of TAKE ALL FROM in I7

Apologies if this has already been reported, but I can’t find any reference to it in the Bug Tracker or on the forum. [code]“Test1” by “J. J. Guest” Desert is a room. A sack is in the desert. The sack is a container. The sack contains a goblet and a skull.[/code] This is the response of the game when the sack is on the ground: This, on the other hand is what happens when we take the sack first: Is this a bug? I’m using 6M62 (Windows).

The difficult challenge of redirecting X for "take all from X"

The testing room is a room. The player is wearing a suit. The pockets are part of the suit. The pockets are a container. A pen is a kind of thing. The player is carrying five pens. Before inserting something into the suit: now the second noun is the pockets; try the current action instead. Before removing something from the suit: now the second noun is the pockets; try the current action instead. OK, let’s try it. testing room >put all in suit pen: Done. [Five times] >take all from s…

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weird arithmetic results; compiler should probably have rejected code

Unexpected arithmetic results - why?

A weird one: "Odd Numbers" Place is a room. To decide which text is (N - number) recalculated: [ showme N; showme (N divided by 256) to the nearest whole number; showme the remainder after dividing N by 256;] [same behavior from showme] say "word = [N] "; let HB be (N divided by 256) to the nearest whole number; say "high = [HB] "; let LB be the remainder after dividing N by 256; say "low = [LB] // "; [decide on "[HB] [LB]".] [uncomment this and everything works f…

Compiler generates wrong code when defining a "to decide" phrase without making a decision

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Difference of kinds? (also, illegal object number in a relation)

Hello! I’m working on a heavily simulationist story set in the Belgian resistance to Nazi occupation in WW2. It includes a lot of procedurally generated NPCs who can speak different languages and belong to one faction or another. Some kinds of clothing are identified with factions; for example, a gendarme’s tunic represents the Belgian police. Also, non-civilians can order one another around; because this is an occupied country, this means that German NCOs can order the police to do things. Cur…

relation_showOtoO
bug fixed by Friends of I7 6M62 patches

i7/extensions/blob/development/Friends of I7/6M62 Patches.i7x

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stopping a timed event

Stopping a timed event

It’s also quite possible that there are three other matt w’s on the Uservoice forum… but those are all actually different people.

Right time. Right place.

Right, I’m having Problems Testing multiple conditions to bring about end of the game in Inform7. I’ve reduced the game to Two rooms, for demonstration purposes. 1/ PHONE BOOTH 2/ STREET The Aim of the game is simple. A taxi is going to pick you up from the STREET location after you call it. A/ Call taxi from PHONE BOOTH. B/ Go to STREET. C/ Wait FIVE turns (or minutes) D/ Get picked up by Taxi E/ Game ends If your not in the street at the right time you miss the taxi and have to call …

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enterable supporters part of things

Enterable supporters that are part of things cause weird behaviour

More weirdness with enterable supporters that are part of things

In the discussion of the object hierarchy, Gavin brought up this case: Test results: [1] sit on couch You get onto the couch. [2] stand on couch But you’re already on the couch. [3] sit on tailgate (getting off the couch) You get onto the tailgate. [4] stand on tailgate (getting off the tailgate) (getting out of the room) But you aren’t in anything at the moment. [5] g You get onto the tailgate. I’m baffled by what’s going on here. The key parts of the standard rules …

[I7 extension] Enterable Underside (first version)

The difficulty seems to be in the handling of named responses which are defined inside loops. In my copy of the Standard Rules, the rule in question is a Check an actor entering rule on line 2519, and response (A) uses a variable current home which is set with each in the first line inside a while loop. Now consider the following simple story: "testing" by Eric Conrad Fooing is an action applying to one thing. Understand "foo [container]" as fooing. Check fooing: if the noun is not a cont…

Dialog-style object hierarchy: doable?

My point is that I think I7 is trending towards multiple independent relations anyway, ie. multiple trees. Which implies that I6 is in the wrong by trying to smoosh together containers and supporters in the same tree. Though yes, the contain/support/part relationships are a bit peculiar in that they’re not quite independent, they all represent a kind of location and thus if you change one you have to “reset” the others. Actually, after playing with this a bit, perhaps this demonstrates some o…

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changing the description of a kind

Changing the description of a kind

Fair enough. While testing this I came upon this odd apparent bug, which I can’t work out even after looking through the I6 code, which looks fine to me. The following: The Control Room is a room. A button is a kind of device with printed name "button" and description "A green button." The large button, the small button and the medium button are buttons in the Lab. The printed name of the large button is "large button".The printed name of the medium button is "medium button".The printed name…

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concealment bug, example 225

[I7] Something Done When Player Can See or In Presence Of

I’m modifying some examples from the Inform 7 recipe book. I have the following: The Lab is a room. Kitty Pryde is a woman in the Lab. The Undertomb is a room. It is down from the Lab. A thing can be secret or obvious. A thing is usually obvious. Cain Marko is a man in the Lab. Cain Marko carries a quantity of plastic explosive. The quantity of plastic explosive is secret. Kitty Pryde carries a laptop bag and a microfilm. The microfilm is secret. Rule for deciding the concealed possession…

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misfeature fix, includes various matches for snippets vs texts

Elegant way to test whether something is in a location (even if in a container)

While we’re on the topic of what could kindly be termed ‘idiosyncracies’ in Inform, others have previously expressed frustration at the bizarre way that ‘includes’ for snippets is equivalent to ‘matches’ for texts, while ‘matches’ for snippets is equivalent to ‘exactly matches’ for texts- in phrases such as 'if the player’s command matches “take aardvaark”, replace the matched text with “take anteater”. This can be fixed by adding the following to source text, which also adds phrases to allow t…

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named outcomes for rules producing results, probably should be forbidden

Named outcomes for rulebooks producing a result

Thanks for looking at it, @zarf !

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Memory access out of range when getting a list of values from a rulebook

Crash: Memory access out of range when getting a list of values from a rulebook

Crash: Memory access out of range when getting a list of values from a rulebook

It would probably help if you could post a minimal example of the code that reproduces the error. If you can’t do that, can you identify the point of crashing in a particular rule in your objective generation rulebook? Can you pinpoint it to a particular line of that rule? That also would probably help.

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article handling for French

Removing the space after an article (definite and undefinite)

Sorry for the late reply… I haven’t tested yet, but it would seem you are right, it comes form the lines you mentioned. In the same routine in the Inform 6 library, we can see that the space is not printed. And best of all (if I understand correctly, but feel free to correct me), it only applies when the articles I6 property is set, so I could just suppress the space in that case and it won’t change he normal behavior otherwise. So the behavior has changed in Inform 7, but I wonder…

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9.13 suggests increasing score “when noun is not handled” for picking something up first but this doesn’t work

Scoring based on "handled" property - not working in 7.9.3 (build 6M62)?

From a quick check, it looks like the issue is probably a change in when the “handled” property gets set. (Unfortunately, my copy of 6G60 is hanging up when I try to open the Standard Rules, so I can’t make sure.) In 6M62, a thing will be set to “handled” as part of the standard taking rule, during the Carry out taking phase. That means that when you check whether it’s handled in the After phase, it’s already been set to handled, even if this was the first time you took it. It looks like you c…

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Wayback Machine copies of Mantis bugs

048 https://web.archive.org/web/20180516031507/http://inform7.com:80/mantis/view.php?id=2048

0002048: The sayable [its] does not work on Linux
Description On Windows, I can use “[its]” in text to be said, producing the appropriate possessive pronoun for the last thing mentioned. On Linux, any game that does this gets a Problem message, which looks to be the same one that you get if you put any undefined nonsense in brackets in text to be said.
Minimal Source Text To Reproduce

“Test Project” by “Adam Novak”

The Garden Path is a room.

The rock is a thing in The Garden Path. “[The rock] sits here minding [its] own business.”

2050
https://web.archive.org/web/20180516031839/http://inform7.com:80/mantis/view.php?id=2050

0002050: You can compare descriptions for equality, but there is no correct way to do that.
Description The attached code prints false instead of true. However, there is no general way to get this comparison right, so it should probably be disallowed entirely (or alternatively, WI might grow a paragraph about “object identity vs. object equivalence” in the Advanced Phrases section).

https://web.archive.org/web/20180516031849/http://inform7.com/mantis/view.php?id=2053

2053
0002053: Misleading comment on specifying a unit taking real number values
Description Section 15.8. Units says:

1.0 kg specifies a weight.

Here Inform can see from the decimal point in the prototype number that real numbers will be involved.

That’s incorrect, and definitely misleading, since e.g. “1.1 kg specifies a weight” doesn’t work. The digit after the point has to be 0, or else we end up specifying a “notation including more than one number” as discussed in Section 15.14.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180516031854/http://inform7.com:80/mantis/view.php?id=2054

0002054: Properties of generic objects not assigned correctly
Description Let K be a kind with property P. A declaration such as “There is a K with P (property);” does not correctly assign the property (which is instead set to the default value
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2055
https://web.archive.org/web/20180516031726/http://inform7.com:80/mantis/view.php?id=2055

WI 18.29 uses 6G60 era phrase “while in”

2056
https://web.archive.org/web/20180516031616/http://inform7.com/mantis/view.php?id=2056

Alien Invasion 23 example Runtime error on MacOS but not Windows

2075 http://inform7.com/mantis/view.php?id=2075
A Couple Questions RE: Math and Number Display - #14 by zarf

2141
http://inform7.com/mantis/view.php?id=2141

Hybrid container/supporter and darkness modeling [I7]

Yeah, it looks to me as though the difference is in the routine for calculating what a non-player thing can see and what a player can see. From Appendix B (this is a few Inform versions ago but I think still current): §7. Visibility Parent. The idea of VisibilityParent is that it takes us from a given position in the object tree, o, to the next visible position above. Note that (1) A container has an inside and an outside: this routine calculates from the “inside of o”, which is why it retur…

container / light / visibility problem

[drpeterbatesuk (Dr Peter Bates)]

My list of recent Intfiction threads about bugs and infelicities

Bug in I7 from Documentation Example 345 - Wesponses?
Bug in I7 from Documentation Example 345 - Wesponses?

Bug? Topic-based actions not parsed if they share a verb word with another action
Bug? Topic-based actions not parsed if they share a verb word with another action

Presence of any ‘verbless’ grammar lines in a project causes an error in identifying the topic snippet when parser diverts unparsed text after the comma in input of the form e.g. “Darcy, …” to 'Answering Darcy that …" action.
Bug? Topic-based actions not parsed if they share a verb word with another action - #2 by drpeterbatesuk

Error in Block Value handling when extracting individual words from a longer text.
Truncation of long words in input and BlkValueWrite error

Block Value tracing is temperamental
Crash: Memory access out of range when getting a list of values from a rulebook - #15 by drpeterbatesuk

Returning a list as the result of a rulebook causes Memory Access Out Of Range error
Crash: Memory access out of range when getting a list of values from a rulebook

Inconsistent typing of topics and snippets
Topic variables and text in I7

Object names including the plural form of the name of an instantiated kind (or of any specifically declared plural form) cause inappropriate parser responses
Rooms is actually a common last name

In input, referring via a plural form to multiple objects when that plural form has not been defined (e.g. ‘take flasks’ or ‘take 3 flasks’ when ‘flasks’ is not defined as a plural of flask) leads to inappropriate parser responses
Rooms is actually a common last name - #14 by otistdog

Inconsistent use of pointers vs deep copies when compiling code to block-assign text properties
Changing the description of a kind - #11 by drpeterbatesuk

The contents of a carried closed transparent container (e.g. a starfish in a closed jam-jar) is no longer ‘visible’ but remains in scope when in darkness.
The Mysteries of Aaron Reed's Remembering Extension (and a solution) - #19 by drpeterbatesuk

For characters other than the player, objects that are not possessions remain in scope even in darkness.
The Mysteries of Aaron Reed's Remembering Extension (and a solution) - #19 by drpeterbatesuk

[Dannii]

That’s great, but just to be clear, I wasn’t volunteering to file all the reports

Anyone should be able to make bug reports now. If anyone would like to help out in terms of tagging, editing titles for clarity etc, let me know and I can add you to a Github group and give you the permissions to do so.

[ArdiMaster (Adrian)]

@Dannii

If anyone would like to help out in terms of tagging, editing titles for clarity etc

I guess I can be “bug archivist” for the time being. (awlck on GitHub.)

[Zed (Zed Lopez)]

@Dannii

That’s great, but just to be clear, I wasn’t volunteering to file all the reports

That was clear! The thanks were for you; the bug notes were for everyone.

But thanks, too, to @ArdiMaster or anyone who does work on the reporting!

[Dannii]

I’ve started adding a couple, and have crossed them out of your lists.