Old version of Inform ATTACK?

[Dannii]

Inform seems to have problems with some of the phrasing.

Please quote the specific errors here. We can’t help without details!

[Skylark]

Oh, ok, sorry, I forgot. This is for Kerkerkruip ATTACK:

In Volume - Kerkerkruip Additions, Chapter - Faculties, Section - Faculty increase in the extension Kerkerkruip ATTACK by Victor Gijsbers:

Problem. You wrote ‘Last status skill rule (this is the unallocated faculty rule)’ : but the punctuation here ‘:’ makes me think this should be a definition of a phrase and it doesn’t begin as it should, with either ‘To’ (e.g. ‘To flood the riverplain:’), ‘Definition:’, a name for a rule (e.g. ‘This is the devilishly cunning rule:’), ‘At’ plus a time (e.g. ‘At 11:12 PM:’ or ‘At the time when the clock chimes’) or the name of a rulebook, possibly followed by some description of the action or value to apply to (e.g. ‘Instead of taking something:’ or ‘Every turn:’).

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In Section - Cleaning the Table of Delayed Actions in the extension Kerkerkruip ATTACK by Victor Gijsbers:

Problem. You wrote ‘A killing rule (this is the reset killed-guy rule)’ : again, the punctuation here ‘:’ makes me think this should be a definition of a phrase and it doesn’t begin as it should.

And regular attack:

In Volume - The Main System, Book - Standard Combat Actions, Chapter - Readying in the extension Inform ATTACK by Victor Gijsbers:

Problem. In the line ‘say “[The actor] [ready] [the noun].”’ , I was expecting that ‘ready’ would be something to ‘say’, but it didn’t look like any form of ‘say’ that I know. So I tried to read ‘ready’ as a value of some kind (because it’s legal to say values), but couldn’t make sense of it that way either.

Sometimes this happens because punctuation has gone wrong - for instance, if you’ve omitted a semicolon or full stop at the end of the ‘say’ phrase.

I was trying to match this phrase:

say “[ready - sayable value]”

But I didn’t recognise ‘ready’.

[Dannii]

The errors in Kerkerkruip ATTACK make it look like it isn’t completely stand alone. Maybe Victor or Mike will be able to comment about that.

But you should be able to solve the second just by adding “To ready is a verb.” somewhere (the other verbs are added at the top.) I’ll check out the latest version on Github myself soon and check that that is the fix required.

[Skylark]

Cool, thanks! Basic Attack works fine now, so far.

Don’t suppose you know if Kerkerkruip is better than it or about the same?

[Dannii]

The Kerkerkruip one is newer, but I don’t know what has been changed.

[Skylark]

0k, I don’t suppose you know where I could find the manual for Attack do you? I can’t find it anywhere and I can’t seem to make any of the earlier attack rules work in this version.

[sarganar]

Hi!
I’m trying to upgrade the Example Test Dungeon from V3, in order to make it compilable with a special Kerkerkruip Attack edition.

Question: in this code:

Carry out retreating (this is the standard carry out retreat rule): say "Deciding that discretion is the better part of valour, you bravely run away."; now the player is retreater; repeat with X running through alive persons in the location: if the player is alive: if X presses the player or the player presses X: now X does not press the player; now the player does not press X; if the faction of X hates the faction of the player: make X strike a blow against the player; if the player is alive, move the player to the retreat location; now the player is not retreater.

What is the kruip equivalent of the phrase?:

make X strike a blow against the player;

(I know that the striking a blow routine was replaced by actions-related rules, but I cant see the way to fire an attack to the player internally )

[VictorGijsbers]

I think that’s just:

try X hitting the player

Attacking first triggers the defender’s ability to react and then triggers the hitting action. Here, we want to bypass reactions and just hit immediately.

[sarganar]

thanx!

Saludos!

[VictorGijsbers]

By the way, good to see that you’re making this effort! Let me know what the result is.