Yes I think that makes sense. I don’t expect all 11,000-odd IFDB games will be mentioned in wiki articles so it shouldn’t be a huge task.
If the IFDB website could provide that then I am sure it could be included within wiki pages as you suggest.
That sounds right. IFWiki does have a lot of interlinked “Works”, “People” and “Authoring systems” pages, based on categories, and it must be hard to resist the temptation to make it exhaustive!
I’m not sure what basics you’d want, but we currently have a little Open Graph card embedded in <meta> tags, usable anywhere that supports OG tags (including Facebook, Twitter, and this forum).
I bet it would be possible to include a card like this in a MediaWiki.
The obvious things missing there are the author(s) and release date. (And maybe ratings.) OG only allows authors on certain “types” of content, currently just articles and books. So we’d have to use article:author or book:author to include an author there, neither of which feel quite right.
That looks like it has potential. I’m not an expert but I think returning stuff in JSON format is common for APIs (like in this MediaWiki API query). Would you be able to implement something like that for IFDB?
There’s a lot missing there, though. Awards don’t show up, no dev system, no reviews (neither “external” editorial reviews nor “internal” reviews written on IFDB). But I see no reason why that material couldn’t be added.
It would take some planning to figure out how best to approach review links. For example, if someone adds a link on ifwiki to a certain review, and then someone adds a link on IFDB to that same review, the ifwiki page may end up linking to the same review twice. But it’s interesting to know that it’s at least possible.
I think the first person should have been advised by IFWiki to post the review link on IFDB instead, so the second review link wouldn’t have been added
I’m not sure whether we’d want IFWiki to show a list of links to IFDB reviews. Maybe just the number of reviews, at most?
If people wanted to go this route, there would need to be a change to the ifwiki style guide, I guess, saying not to add links to individual external reviews on game pages anymore. I don’t know if we’d also want some sort of reminder on the page itself (or at least, pages that use the “auto-import-stuff-from-IFDB” object).
Links to individual IFDB member reviews? Yeah, that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. It would be more convenient for an ifwiki user to just click one link that would take you to all the IFDB reviews, and then you could easily scroll around to see the others. (I believe a link to an individual IFDB review would take you to a page with just that review by itself.)
Of course, if the person is clicking through to IFDB anyway, they could also scroll around and see the external reviews as well. Maybe even with a summary included. So I don’t know what to do about the external review links.
It would be possible to add an optional data-entry form (like the IFDB one but focussing on and encouraging free text). The form could be the means of guiding the user on what to include. There could be a link on the form to the style guide, or the form might effectively replace it.
I have pieced together everything I could find on the wiki about copyright on the IFWiki:Copyright discussions page. It looks from the 2005 debates and the 2007 copyright page that the “public domain” argument won, and that all content on the wiki is public domain, at least from 21 February 2007, with two exceptions being the FAQ page (CC-SA 2.0 licence) and Andrew Plotkin’s postcard (CC-SA 3.0 licence). Until I’ve read the 2005 debates I’ll just observe that the easiest option is not to change anything…
@robinjohnson and I have started some wiki-related discussions on IFWiki talk:Community portal - IFWiki – if you log into the wiki you select Actions–Watch to receive email notifications when content is added to the page.
Looks like I have a lot to catch up on. Forgive me for my laxness, but I kinda burnt out on IFWiki ages ago, and I’ve never been a forum regular. And my current internet situation is truly abymsal. I can say that I am glad that people are moving forward with IFWiki without waiting for my input, 'cause let’s be honest, who knows how long you’d be waiting?, and I look forward to seeing what changes have already been implemented. Thank yous to everyone.
David - I think I can speak for everyone and say that your contribution has been enormous over the years and if you never edit another page, you’ll still have done more than anyone else. It is greatly appreciated.