Making Hyperlink Interface work

[Skylark]

Hi! I’ve been trying to make Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli work for ages now but it hasn’t been updated Can anyone help? Here is the problem I’m having currently:

You wrote ‘A hyperlink processing rule (this is the default command replacement by hyperlinks rule)’ , but this would give a name (‘default command replacement by hyperlinks rule’) to a new rule which already belongs to an existing one.

[Draconis (Daniel Stelzer)]

What other extensions are you including? It sounds like something else is also trying to handle hyperlinks and the two are coming into conflict.

[Skylark]

Oh, whoops, it was probably an exit lister I have installed. With that off, it gives me these errors:

Problem. You wrote ‘change the command prompt to “[set link 2] l [end link]|[set l […] link]| [set link 1]menu[end link]>”’ : but this is a phrase which I don’t recognise, possibly because it is one you meant to define but never got round to, or because the wording is wrong (see the Phrasebook section of the Index to check). Alternatively, it may be that the text immediately previous to this was a definition whose ending, normally a full stop, is missing?

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In Chapter - Exits, Section - Definitions in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘carry out the direction hyperlinking activity’ , but ‘direction hyperlinking’ has the wrong kind of value: an activity on objects rather than an activity.

I was trying to match this phrase:

carry out the (direction hyperlinking - activity) activity

I recognised:

direction hyperlinking = an activity on objects

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Problem. You wrote ‘carry out the direction hyperlinking activity’ , but ‘direction hyperlinking’ has the wrong kind of value: an activity on objects rather than an activity.

I was trying to match this phrase:

carry out the (direction hyperlinking - activity) activity

I recognised:

direction hyperlinking = an activity on objects

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In Chapter - Error Reporting, Section - Not a verb I recognise in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘Rule for printing a parser error when parser error is not a verb I recognise (this is the Hyperlink Interface not a verb I recognise rule)’ : but I don’t understand the ‘when/while’ clause, which should name activities or conditions.

See the manual: 18.4 > 18.4. While clauses

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In Section - Rule for object hyperlinking something in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘if hl is “”, change hl to word number (the number of words in output) in output’ : again, this is a phrase which I don’t recognise.

I was trying to match this phrase:

if (hl is “” - a condition) , (change hl to word number ( the number of words in output ) in output - a phrase)

I recognised:

hl is “” = a condition

But I didn’t recognise ‘change hl to word number ( the number of words in output ) in output’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘change the glulx replacement command to the entry current link number of the List of Hyperlink Glulx Replacement Commands’ : again, this is a phrase which I don’t recognise.

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In Chapter - Show valid directions after going nowhere, Section - Listing Exits (for use without Keyword Interface by Aaron Reed) in the extension Small Kindnesses by Aaron Reed:

Problem. The definitions ‘a direction is viable if the room it from the location is a room’ and ‘a direction (called thataway) is viable if the room thataway from the location is a room’ both try to cover the same situation: the same adjective applied to the exact same range.

It’s okay to override a definition in an extension with another one in the main source text, but it’s not okay to define the same adjective twice over the same domain in the same file.

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Problem. The definitions ‘a direction is viable if the room it from the location is a room’ and ‘a direction (called thataway) is viable if the room thataway from the location is a room’ both try to cover the same situation: the same adjective applied to the exact same range.

It’s okay to override a definition in an extension with another one in the main source text, but it’s not okay to define the same adjective twice over the same domain in the same file.

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Problem. The definitions ‘a direction is viable if the room it from the location is a room’ and ‘a direction (called thataway) is viable if the room thataway from the location is a room’ both try to cover the same situation: the same adjective applied to the exact same range.

It’s okay to override a definition in an extension with another one in the main source text, but it’s not okay to define the same adjective twice over the same domain in the same file.

[Draconis (Daniel Stelzer)]

I’m guessing this is an extension from 6G60?

[Skylark]

I think so, yeah.

Sorry for the late response!

[Skylark]

Can anyone help?

I’m afraid I let this thread go cold because I have had a hell of a time at work lately and haven’t been online much.

[Draconis (Daniel Stelzer)]

So I’m seeing two main problems.
1 - some of the definitions are conflicting with the exit lister in Small Kindnesses
2 - general 6G60 -> 6L** update issues, like “change X to Y” needing to be “now X is Y”

I’ll see if I can look at the extension again later today.

[Skylark]

Cool, thanks. Had any luck with it?

[Skylark]

I don’t suppose anyone has had any luck getting this working? I’ve quoted out the exit lister and replaced all the instances of “change” with “now”. The errors I’m now getting are:

In Chapter - Responses in the extension Hyperlink Interface IT by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘show hyperlinks menu rule response (A) is “[line break][fixed letter spacing] […] |[set link 3]inventario[end link]|”’ : but this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’, which is not allowed since the potential for confusion with other uses for brackets in Inform source text is too high. (If you need, say, a room which the player sees as ‘Fillmore (West)’, you can get this effect with: ‘Fillmore West is a room with printed name “Fillmore (West)”.’)

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Problem. You wrote ‘show hyperlinks menu rule response (B) is “[set link 4]argomenti[end link]|”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘show hyperlinks menu rule response (C) is “[set link 5]oggetti[end link]|”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘show hyperlinks menu rule response (D) is “[set link 6]uscite[end link]|”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘show hyperlinks menu rule response (E) is “[set link 7]x me[end link]|[set li […] ink]|[set link 9]carica[end link]|”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘show hyperlinks menu rule response (F) is “[roman type][line break]”’ : but this seems to say that a thing is a value, like saying ‘the chair is 10’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (A) is “menù”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (B) is “guarda”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (C) is “inventario”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (D) is “argomenti”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (E) is “oggetti”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (F) is “uscite”’ : again, this seems to say that a thing is a value.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (G) is “x me”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (H) is “salva”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (I) is “carica”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (J) is “zoom”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (K) is “U”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (L) is “N”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (M) is “NE”’ : again, this seems to say that a thing is a value.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (N) is “E”’ : again, this seems to say that a thing is a value.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (O) is “SE”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (P) is “S”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (Q) is “SW”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (R) is “W”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (S) is “NW”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘initializing replacement commands list rule response (T) is “D”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘set hyperlink command prompt rule response (A) is “[set link 2]guarda[end link] | [se […] ink] | [set link 1]menù[end link]>”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (A) is “[story title] fa uso di collegamen […] isulta più chiara sul tuo sistema.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (B) is “I collegamenti ipertestuali agli [ […] ] vengono visualizzati [o]così.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (C) is “I collegamenti ipertestuali alle [ […] ] vengono visualizzati [d]così.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (D) is “I collegamenti ipertestuali agli [ […] ] vengono visualizzati [t]così.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (E) is “[as the parser]I messaggi del pars […] gono visualizzati così[as normal].”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (F) is “[line break]Attenzione: I colleg […] zioni non risultassero visibili.”’ : again, this seems to say that a thing is a value.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (G) is “[line break]Attenzione: potrebbe […] amento ipertestuale e l[']altro.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (H) is “[paragraph break]Premi 0 per concl […] à screen reader.[run paragraph on]”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (I) is “Premi un tasto per continuare.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘Hyperlink Interface carry out setting screen reader mode rule response (A) is “La modalità screen reader è stata disattivata.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘Hyperlink Interface carry out setting screen reader mode rule response (B) is “La modalità screen reader è stata […] are o disattivare questa modalità.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘Hyperlink Interface carry out listing exits rule response (A) is “Non [regarding the player][puoi] andare da nessuna parte.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘Hyperlink Interface carry out listing exits rule response (B) is “Da [qui], [regarding the player][p […] rso [a list of viable directions].”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘Hyperlink Interface showing the hyperlink introduction text rule response (A) is “[line break]Leggendo [story title] […] LINKS per modificarne lo stile.”’ : again, this seems to give something a name which contains brackets ‘(’ or ‘)’.

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In Chapter - Hyperlink Types in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote '‘A hyperlink emphasis is a kind of value’ ', but that seems to say that some room or thing already created (‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response’, created by '‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (F) is “[line break]Attenzione: I colleg […] zioni non risultassero visibili.”’ ') is now to become a kind. To prevent a variety of possible misunderstandings, this is not allowed: when a kind is created, the name given has to be a name not so far used. (Sometimes this happens due to confusion between names. For instance, if a room called ‘Marble archway’ exists, then Inform reads ‘An archway is a kind of thing’, Inform will read ‘archway’ as a reference to the existing room, not as a new name. To solve this, put the sentences the other way round.)

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Problem. You wrote ‘A hyperlink type has a hyperlink emphasis called style’ , but ‘hyperlink emphasis’ is not the name of a kind of value which I know (such as ‘number’ or ‘text’).

See the manual: 4.8 > 4.8. New value properties

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Problem. In ‘The active style is a hyperlink emphasis that varies’ , ‘hyperlink emphasis that varies’ is a contradiction in terms, as this is something that cannot ever vary.

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Problem. The sentence ‘The hyperlink emphases are hyperlink-bold-style, hyperlink-italics-style, hyperlink-fixedwidth-style, hyperlink-normal-style and hyperlink-no-style’ appears to say two things are the same - I am reading ‘hyperlink emphases’ and ‘hyperlink-bold-style’ as two different things, and therefore it makes no sense to say that one is the other: it would be like saying that ‘Tom is Jerry’. It would be all right if the second thing were the name of a kind, perhaps with properties: for instance ‘Mouse-Hole is a lighted room’ says that something called Mouse-Hole exists and that it is a ‘room’, which is a kind I know about, combined with a property called ‘lighted’ which I also know about.

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In Chapter - Changing Style in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. The sentence ‘tempstyles is a list of hyperlink emphases that varies’ appears to say two things are the same - I am reading ‘tempstyles’ and ‘list of hyperlink emphases that varies’ as two different things, and therefore it makes no sense to say that one is the other: it would be like saying that ‘Tom is Jerry’. It would be all right if the second thing were the name of a kind, perhaps with properties: for instance ‘Mouse-Hole is a lighted room’ says that something called Mouse-Hole exists and that it is a ‘room’, which is a kind I know about, combined with a property called ‘lighted’ which I also know about.

[zahariel]

This looks like you tried to mess with all the responses in Hyperlink Interface (by way of translating them to Italian) before including Hyperlink Interface itself. Therefore, I7 had no idea you were trying to talk about responses in your translation extension, but did its best to create a bunch of objects instead, since that was what it knew how to do that was most syntactically similar to what you wrote. Why it says that some of them are trying to create objects with parentheses in their names, while a few are merely trying to say that things are values, I have no idea. I suspect it has to do with the particular letter in the parentheses; it seems to be okay with F, M, or N, but other letters are bad. This is probably a bug; all letters should be bad. I have no idea what is special about F, M, or N.

And then it got even more confused when it got to the actual extension and those nonsensical objects conflicted with things the extension was trying to create, in particular the hyperlink emphasis kind. The hint that clued me in is the problem message:

Problem. You wrote '‘A hyperlink emphasis is a kind of value’ ', but that seems to say that some room or thing already created (‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response’, created by '‘setup hyperlink emphasis rule response (F) is “[line break]Attenzione: I colleg […] zioni non risultassero visibili.”’ ') is now to become a kind. To prevent a variety of possible misunderstandings, this is not allowed: when a kind is created, the name given has to be a name not so far used. (Sometimes this happens due to confusion between names. For instance, if a room called ‘Marble archway’ exists, then Inform reads ‘An archway is a kind of thing’, Inform will read ‘archway’ as a reference to the existing room, not as a new name. To solve this, put the sentences the other way round.)

(emphasis added) It’s not kidding about confusion between names. Put Hyperlink Interface before Hyperlink Interface IT, so that I7 knows what you’re talking about.

[Skylark]

This looks like you tried to mess with all the responses in Hyperlink Interface (by way of translating them to Italian) before including Hyperlink Interface itself.

Italian? Oh damn, I have no idea why, but for some reason I thought I was supposed to include Hyperlink IT. :mrgreen: Really sorry about that, I can’t explain why I thought that at all. I’m definitely not intending to make this in Italian, just to clarify. Ok, without the Italian file, the error text turns to this much shorter version:

 (Each time Go or Replay is clicked, Inform tries to translate the source text into a working story, and updates this report.)

Problem. You wrote ‘now the command prompt to “[set link 2] l [end link]|[set l […] link]| [set link 1]menu[end link]>”’ : but this is a phrase which I don’t recognise, possibly because it is one you meant to define but never got round to, or because the wording is wrong (see the Phrasebook section of the Index to check). Alternatively, it may be that the text immediately previous to this was a definition whose ending, normally a full stop, is missing?

I was trying to match this phrase:

now (command prompt to “[set link 2] l [end link]|[set link 3] i [end link]| [set link 1]menu[end link]>” - a phrase)

But I didn’t recognise ‘command prompt to “[set link 2] l [end link]|[set link 3] i [end link]| [set link 1]menu[end link]>”’.

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In Chapter - Exits, Section - Definitions in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘carry out the direction hyperlinking activity’ , but ‘direction hyperlinking’ has the wrong kind of value: an activity on objects rather than an activity.

I was trying to match this phrase:

carry out the (direction hyperlinking - activity) activity

I recognised:

direction hyperlinking = an activity on objects

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Problem. You wrote ‘carry out the direction hyperlinking activity’ , but ‘direction hyperlinking’ has the wrong kind of value: an activity on objects rather than an activity.

I was trying to match this phrase:

carry out the (direction hyperlinking - activity) activity

I recognised:

direction hyperlinking = an activity on objects

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In Chapter - Error Reporting, Section - Not a verb I recognise in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘Rule for printing a parser error when parser error is not a verb I recognise (this is the Hyperlink Interface not a verb I recognise rule)’ : but I don’t understand the ‘when/while’ clause, which should name activities or conditions.

See the manual: 18.4 > 18.4. While clauses

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In Section - Rule for object hyperlinking something in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. You wrote ‘if hl is “”, now hl to word number (the number of words in output) in output’ : again, this is a phrase which I don’t recognise.

I was trying to match this phrase:

now (hl to word number ( the number of words in output ) in output - a phrase)

But I didn’t recognise ‘hl to word number ( the number of words in output ) in output’.

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Problem. You wrote ‘now the glulx replacement command to the entry current link number of the List of Hyperlink Glulx Replacement Commands’ : again, this is a phrase which I don’t recognise.

I was trying to match this phrase:

now (glulx replacement command to the entry current link number of the list of hyperlink glulx replacement commands - a phrase)

But I didn’t recognise ‘glulx replacement command to the entry current link number of the list of hyperlink glulx replacement commands’.

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In Chapter - Changing Style, Section - Exits in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. The definitions ‘a direction (called thataway) is viable if the room thataway from the location is a room’ and ‘a direction is viable if the room it from the location is a room’ both try to cover the same situation: the same adjective applied to the exact same range.

It’s okay to override a definition in an extension with another one in the main source text, but it’s not okay to define the same adjective twice over the same domain in the same file.

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Problem. The definitions ‘a direction (called thataway) is viable if the room thataway from the location is a room’ and ‘a direction is viable if the room it from the location is a room’ both try to cover the same situation: the same adjective applied to the exact same range.

It’s okay to override a definition in an extension with another one in the main source text, but it’s not okay to define the same adjective twice over the same domain in the same file.

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Problem. The definitions ‘a direction (called thataway) is viable if the room thataway from the location is a room’ and ‘a direction is viable if the room it from the location is a room’ both try to cover the same situation: the same adjective applied to the exact same range.

It’s okay to override a definition in an extension with another one in the main source text, but it’s not okay to define the same adjective twice over the same domain in the same file.

[matt_weiner (matt w)]

…I feel like a complete jerk for not looking this up before, but did you get this version of the extension? The 6L-compatible versions of extensions that are on the “old” extension site but not in the Public Library tend to be on the I7 github. This looks like it should solve the problem.

We really need to do a better job of making this clear.

Anyway, for the record, and for future updating purposes:

In a couple of places you had “change… to…” and you changed “change” to “now” but didn’t change “to” to “is.”
In the latest I7 you have to write “when latest parser error is…,” I guess to enable clarification between the kind “command parser error” and the global variable “latest parser error.”
Not sure exactly why the other two worked before and not now.

[Skylark]

Oh? No, I wasn’t using that version. It’s been a while, but I’m pretty sure I got it off a code base though. The extensions are a bit misleading, but it really isn’t your fault, so don’t worry about it. I tried that new version you linked to just now and I am still getting a couple of errors, but not as many:

In Chapter - Hyperlink Types, Section - Glulx Style Definitions in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. The table ‘Table of User Styles (continued)’ won’t work as a continuation, because it contains columns not found in the original ‘Table of User Styles’ .

The old table has columns: style name, background color, color, first line indentation, fixed width, font weight, indentation, italic, justification, relative size, reversed.

The new table has columns: style name, fixed width, boldness, relative size, glulx color.

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In Section Message Supression:

Problem. It looks as if ‘Table of Common Color Values (continued)’ is meant to be related to an existing table, but I can’t find one if it is.

Perhaps you’ve put the new part before the original? The original has to be earlier in the source text.

[zahariel]

The Table of User Styles is defined by the standard rules, but it has a different schema depending on whether the project is compiled for Z8 or Glulx. This looks like you’re compiling your project for Z8. Hyperlink Interface includes Glulx Text Effects by Emily Short, which indicates that it will probably not work in Z8. Check your project settings to make sure you have Glulx chosen.

[Skylark]

Z Machine? That’s really weird because I’m definitely using Glulx. I just double checked, and that is the option selected in settings. I’m also already using Glulx Text Effects by Emily Short!

[Skylark]

I just tried to compile the interface on its own with Glulx with just a blank room and I got this:

[code]In Chapter - Hyperlink Types, Section - Glulx Style Definitions in the extension Hyperlink Interface by Leonardo Boselli:

Problem. The table ‘Table of User Styles (continued)’ won’t work as a continuation, because it contains columns not found in the original ‘Table of User Styles’ .

The old table has columns: style name, background color, color, first line indentation, fixed width, font weight, indentation, italic, justification, relative size, reversed.

The new table has columns: style name, fixed width, boldness, relative size, glulx color.

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Problem. It looks as if ‘Table of Common Color Values (continued)’ is meant to be related to an existing table, but I can’t find one if it is.

Perhaps you’ve put the new part before the original? The original has to be earlier in the source text.[/code]

[zarf (Andrew Plotkin)]

That looks like an old version of the extension (or the new version of the extension with an old version of Inform).

[bg]

This might be of help: ifanswers.com/417/how-do-i-updat … xt-effects

[matt_weiner (matt w)]

[rant=incorrect; see bg’s comment below]So, in line with the link bg just gave, it looks like you should check to make sure you have the most current version of Glulx Text Effects.[/rant]

[bg]

In the link I gave, it was the other extension that needed to be updated, not Glulx Text Effects. Glulx Text effects got a major rewrite, so other extensions needed to be updated in order to be compatible with it.