Anchorhead - rusty hatch

Hi

Does anyone know about Anchorhead? I’m in the sewers and wanting to go out through the rusty hatch in the ceiling, only the game won’t let me put my fish oil on the hinges. Every time I try it just goes “putting things on the rusty hatch would achieve nothing”. If I leave the sewers by the other exit, I get killed by an angry mob.

Can someone please help? Is it a bug in the game? I’m pretty sure I’m playing v5.

Thanks!

It’s not a bug:

The fish oil isn’t the solution here. I can’t quite remember, but I think there’s more than one way out the sewer.

Also:

Do you have the robes from the church yet?

I do have the robes, but when I try to sneak out wearing them I still get killed.

Several walkthroughs that I’ve read say that I need to grease up the hinges with the oil.

Totally confused and stuck.

Hmm… its been about a year since I last played it. According to this source:

Just keep trying to open (or maybe push) the hatch, eventually it’ll budge.

It does nothing :confused:

I think it might be a bug, every walkthrough I can find tells me to go through that hatch using the fish oil, even this forum post the creater of the game wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.int-fiction/tree/browse_frm/month/2006-12/ac4bd10c5d548e81?rnum=121&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.games.int-fiction%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2006-12%3F

Boohoo.

I hope it’s not a bug but I guess that’s possible. And the fish oil container is definitely open, and you’ve tried different ways of phrasing the degreasing, I assume? Unless anyone else has any other suggestions, I’d suggest if possible posting your play-transcript for the sewer section to see what you’ve tried. If you’re convinced its a bug, is there a recent save you can restore to and try from there?

I suspect that you need to try

OIL HATCH rather than PUT OIL ON HATCH.

Correction: it looks as if

there’s a separate HINGES object, and you need to rub the oil on that.

Both of these would be annoying failures of implementation, though not bugs per se.

I don’t believe the second is a failure. It is HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT.
Anyway, we are talking about a game 10 years old. Which is by far still the best, imho.

Tcehnically true. The correct way to stand up would also be “PUT LEGS ON FLOOR. PUT WEIGHT ON LEGS. LEAN FORWARD. STRAIGHTEN LEGS.”

Just as there should be plenty of synonims for nouns, certain actions should also have alternatives. Yes, “put oil on hatch” bears no resemblance to what we’re trying to achieve, but it’s clear that the player isn’t actually trying to juggle the oil on the hatch - while not necessary, it would be very courteous of the author, therefore, to allow this syntax.

“OIL HATCH”, however, or even “RUB OIL ON HATCH”, should work, even if the latter isn’t as correct as the former.

I would definitely play a game like that :slight_smile:

Maga: beautiful. If I could be bothered (I can’t), I’d give you a complete rundown of what happens when you type “SING”. Here’s a tip: it starts with taking ten years (at the usual rate turn = minute) worth of classes. :wink:

Jamespking: ifdb.tads.org/viewgame?id=3o6pakoxb7cy3cd5 Enjoy.

Sounds like you’ve got just about everything worked out you’d need for an IF implementation of QWOP!

Getting back to Anchorhead: if you haven’t figured it out yet, I believe you need to GET OIL while carrying the tin, and then PUT OIL ON HINGES. If you don’t get a gob of fishy oil on your finger first, the parser will assume you mean the tin, not the oil.

Remember this for a later, somewhat tougher puzzle.

This is what I’m doing:[spoiler]Broken Tunnel
This looks to be an older part of the sewer system that has fallen into
disrepair. Many of the pipes here have crumbled and are filled with
debris.

Set in the low ceiling is an old iron hatch.

get oil
You already have that.

put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

oil hatch
That’s not a verb I recognise.

put oil on hatch
Putting things on the rusty hatch would achieve nothing.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.

open hatch
You dig your fingers under the edge and tug, but the hinges are rusted
nearly solid. You can’t make it budge.

get oil
You already have that.

put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

oil hinges
That’s not a verb I recognise.

put oil on hinge
Putting things on the rusty hatch would achieve nothing.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.

put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

rub oil on hinges
It doesn’t get much cleaner.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.

put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

rub oil on hatch
It doesn’t get much cleaner.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.

smear oil on hinges
It doesn’t get much cleaner.

lather hinges with oil
That’s not a verb I recognise.

lubricate hinges with oil
That’s not a verb I recognise.

use oil as anti-rust
That’s not a verb I recognise.

smash hatch with crossbar
Violence isn’t the answer to this one.[/spoiler]

As you can see, nothing seems to be working. :frowning:

Here’s the relevant excerpt from David A. Wheeler’s transcript:

[spoiler]>x hatch
It’s a rectangle of corroded metal, just over a foot long on each side. There
are hinges along one edge on this side; if you could get your fingers under the
opposite edge, you could probably pry it open.

open hatch
You dig your fingers under the edge and tug, but the hinges are rusted nearly
solid. You can’t make it budge.

open tin
(first taking the old tin)
You open the old tin, revealing a smelly quantity of fish oil.

put oil on hatch
(first getting some fish oil)
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

You rub a good amount of fish oil all over the rusty hinges.

close tin
You close the old tin.

The flashlight beam flickers uncertainly for a moment, then comes back a bit
weaker than before.

open hatch
The oiled hinges give a little, allowing you to wiggle your fingers further
under the door’s edge. A sharp tug – and the door swings down suddenly,
spilling filthy water into your face.[/spoiler]

I remember getting stuck at exactly this part. I don’t think there are any subtleties here; it’s just extremely rigid in what it will accept.

This is what happens:

[spoiler]> x hatch
It’s a rectangle of corroded metal, just over a foot long on each side.
There are hinges along one edge on this side; if you could get your
fingers under the opposite edge, you could probably pry it open.

open hatch
You dig your fingers under the edge and tug, but the hinges are rusted
nearly solid. You can’t make it budge.

open tin
(first taking the old tin)
You open the old tin.

put oil on hatch
Putting things on the rusty hatch would achieve nothing.

put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

put oil on hatch
Putting things on the rusty hatch would achieve nothing.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.[/spoiler]

If it’s a bug, does anyone know how I might fix it? I’m using Gargoyle, and I got the game from here http://www.wurb.com/if/game/17, the one called “anchor.z8”. I’ll try going back to an older save and doing the oil thing, but I don’t know if that will fix it.

It sounds like fish oil just ain’t all its cracked up to be. It’s supposed to lube the hinges enough to be able to open them, but that obviously isn’t working for katrinekyhl. Similarly, my doctor tells me the stuff is supposed to lower my triglycerides, but, every day for the last ten years or so:

Robert Rothman

Can you try this?

[spoiler]> put finger in oil

rub hinges

I think when you “rub oil on hinges”, it’s parsed as rubbing the oil, and gives you the default response (“It doesn’t get much cleaner”).[/spoiler]

If that doesn’t work, feel free to send me your save and I will pound my head on it for awhile.

It just goes

[spoiler]> put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

rub hinges
It doesn’t get much cleaner.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.

put finger in oil
You dip your finger in and come up with a small glob of pungent fish oil.

rub hinges with oil
It doesn’t get much cleaner.

Not knowing what else to do with it, you wipe the nasty fish oil off on
the leg of your pants.[/spoiler]

I would love to send you my save, how do I do that?

There are some things that didn’t happen to me like it said in the walkthroughs. I didn’t take Michael’s faculty card from his wallet (didn’t want to steal from my husband) and go check out things at the university library. I haven’t been able to find the hairpin that I understand is hidden somewhere in the luggage that sits in the foyer of the mansion (“search luggage” and “look through luggage” doesn’t work, it just goes something like “you can’t muster up the motivation”). And Michael left the house in the morning of the third day instead of going down to the cellar, so I didn’t watch him fiddle with the bottles. I still managed to go down to that portal thing with the pillars and flute playing, though.
Is it possible that by sort of skipping those things I’ve corrupted the rest of the game or something? I really don’t want to have to start over, boo hoo.